Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes

[Cataferal]

If you didnt know, you'll know now that two of the biggest names in the videogaming industry have collaberated; Shigeru Miyamato and Hideo Kojima. They have decided to remake the original Metal Gear Solid for the Gamecube, featuring the obvious graphical improvements (surpassing that of MGS2's), and added features. The game is under work by Silicon Knights, who released Eternal Darkness.
Now, the reason why this is so signifigant; the best game on the playstation, which contributed towards its victory in popularity over N64, is now coming to the GC. The tables may well turn on Sony after the announcement that this is an exclusive title, much like the original was to the playstation. If you look back, it was Metal gear Solid (best game on PSX, arguably) which was being compared to Zelda : OoT (best game on N64, no argument). And now, the GC has both.
If Nintendo keep this attitude towards releasing what the sony fanboys want, only for the GC, there will be a lot of annoyed sony fanboys converting to nintendo, and so the GC will certainly be getting the popularity it deserves.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 01, 2003 04:40 PM: Message edited by: Cataferal ]</font>

[Xellos]

ooooooh, coolness! XD

[One Classy Bloke]

Man, i'm looking forward to Wiseman's reaction to this. I'm sure it will be the good old "MGS is overhyped crap with crappy graphics" arguement. And we all know he hasn't played much of the game.

Oh well, while it's a remake, it sounds pretty damn cool.

[Dragonrider]

MGS was badass to play. I'll be looking forward to playing the remake on my friend's GC. However, I doubt this will turn the tables. Nintendo has themselves in the "kiddy trap" that is, people have made an impression of them, and they are gonna be stuck in it for a long while, one release won't fix it.

Sorry to those of you who are hopeful, but I doubt it will affect much in terms of power-struggling. Sony just has everyone in their ass-pocket, and with the games coming out on their console.. there isn't that much reason for people not to be. Some people are plain stuck in their ASSHOLE (*cough*FFfanboys*cough*), but really and logically, Sony is getting a lot of the best producers for their console, period. Star Ocean 2, Legend of Legaia 2, Xenosaga, who can deny it? Not too many.

[mrwiseman]

IRT Cataferal:

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That's something easy to do, LOL

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Nice team

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">the best game on the playstation</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'd not even consider it top-5. IMO Xenogears and Grandia 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; MGS, other games like Legend of Legaia or Tales of Phantasia 0wn it as well. JMO.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">it was Metal gear Solid (best game on PSX, arguably) which was being compared to Zelda : OoT</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
MGS is no match for the Zelda: OoT.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">and so the GC will certainly be getting the popularity it deserves.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not interested on any MGS games (don't like the genre much, don't like the style much), but it's good news that the GC is getting games people wants.


IRT OCB:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Man, i'm looking forward to Wiseman's reaction to this. I'm sure it will be the good old "MGS is overhyped crap with crappy graphics" arguement. And we all know he hasn't played much of the game.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just quit bullshitting about me, will ya?

I DID play MGS, so shut the fuck up. And what's the problem if I didn't like it, huh? Am I a worse person, an evil dictator, or a fanboy, because I happened to not like it? Who's the one forcing opinions on people and badmouthing here?


IRT DR:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Nintendo has themselves in the "kiddy trap" that is, people have made an impression of them, and they are gonna be stuck in it for a long while, one release won't fix it.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's true, but people like me rely on facts. Once they release a handful nice adult-oriented games I'm interested on I'll be happy to reconsider buying a GameCube (regardless of what some ones say or think).

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#E0E0E0"><font size=2 face="Verdana,Tahoma">Sony is getting a lot of the best producers for their console. Star Ocean 2, Legend of Legaia 2, Xenosaga, who can deny it?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's true. And you just named three games I'm buying.

[One Classy Bloke]

aw man, that was really disappointing. Oh well. Maybe next time.

[melfice]

Nice! i hope Silicon knights are being supervised directly by Kojima-sama (like a lot his games, maybe that MGS not much, but other games done by him are cool, Snatcher, Policenauts, even the Tokimeki Memorial series are Kojima directed games...)

In my opinion, MGS had very good graphics, and used the PSX over its limits. If GC is goint to have this game, it is another good reason (as if there weren't...) to get a GC.

The only thing GC needs to reach the perfection is a Xeno game and a grandia II remake /second part... Will "Deus"/Granas/Valmar/Kosmos/Krelian or whoever hear my prays?

And if there is no God to pray for this, i'll make one with my own hands! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Dragonrider]

Typo on my part, I meant Star Ocean 3, Star Ocean 2 came out for the PSX years ago, lol :-)

Anyways, I personally liked MGS, but not because of the graphics or anything like that, but because I personally like that style of game. It just clicks with me very well.

And OCB, cut it out, you're coming across like a complete jackass.

[Cataferal]

IRT Wiseman, i really do think that the graphics in MGS2 were superb, so im at a disagreement with you there. Just my opinion though.

Perhaps the release of this game on GC wont turn the tables instantly, but if more popular 3rd party company's make their landmark titles for the GC, it certainly will increase in popularity over time. Though i doubt it will surpass the popularity of PS2, it will give them a very clear lead over the Xbox (which as statistics show, is unfortunately doing just as well as the GC right now).

[mrwiseman]

I agree with the "unfortunately" part [img]smile.gif[/img] . Hopefully, the GC will reover from its current situation and be clearly ahead of the xbox again.

But Nintendo needs great RPGs if they want to face sony. And by "great RPGs" I mean Xenosaga, Star Ocean 3 or Suikoden 3 type stuff.

Namco is currently focusing more on RPGs; they should try to get them to make more GC RPGs; not a cel-shaded Tales game (which doesn't look bad but it doesn't look so great either, plus it's only one game), but the real thing, i.e. an assload of RPGs including THE saga, some Tales games, less popular RPGs like Venus & Braves, etc.

They should also go for Square; the GC FF game in the works is original and looks great, but I bet fanboys will say it's not a real FF (because it doesn't have a Roman number after the name). To make fanboys interested on the GC, they should try to get Square to release Final Fantasy 12, 13, 14 or whatever number they are at on GameCube, as well as other Square RPGs. The games may suck, it isn't important, all they need is to have the name "Square" big and clear in the box. This is to attract fanboys, of course; hardcore gamers will demand real good RPGs, and the ones getting released on PS2 are good examples of these.